WHERE to TRAIN
Carolyne Barry talks
about acting in commercials
By Keith Wolfe
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Keith: |
Carolyne,
what should actors expect from
one of your classes? |
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Carolyne: |
I'm a lot different than most
people teaching because of my
background as an actress and
a casting director. I have had
my own advertising agency and
I have had my own production
and casting training facility.
I approach commercial acting
from the point of view that
it's good acting with fewer
pauses, less time in rehearsal,
more specifics, and less time
for the actor to immediately
access whom they are.
A lot of people teach from a
point of view of end results,
teach you what to do, such as
be friendly, "be warmer",
"have more authority."
For a lot of actors, if they
have plenty of time to rehearse
that in a play or for a scene
in a class, they can find that.
But to immediately access it,
that's the tricky part. I approach
acting utilizing the fundamentals
of who, what, where and why.
Who are you? Whom are you talking
to? Because when you look into
a camera, you don't see anybody.
When you are on the phone, you
don't see (or hear) anybody
either, but you are talking
to someone. You get emotional
and passionate, you have feelings.
So I teach actors to utilize
who you are and whom you are
talking to, where you are (because
sometimes your environment will
help things in the copy be more
specific), what are you doing
and more importantly what your
objective is. In commercials,
many times the objective is
to help people. A lot of times
when I ask people what their
objective is, they will say
I want to sell someone, I want
to convince them. No one wants
to be sold anything, but everyone
is up to being helped.
Most of the time when people
come to me for commercial classes,
who are beginners, I try to
talk them out of taking commercial
classes. I talk to them about
taking an improv and/or a scene
study class. Because those classes
are where you learn the fundamentals
of good acting and then when
you do good acting, you can
do commercials, sitcoms, and
soap operas. It's just a different
twist on it.
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Keith: |
Does someone have to have high
energy to be in commercials?
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Carolyne: |
Absolutely not. In fact, if
you really look at commercials
right now, the people with high
energy (I'm talking general
terms now) are the 18-to-24-year-olds.
But if you look at everyone
else, it's very naturalistic
and all I can say is, "Thank
God." It's more cinematic
now than it used to be, in terms
of the style. Yes, you have
a little more energy. It's what
I call a heightened enthusiasm,
but it's not like bouncing-up-and-down
energy. There are a lot of commercials
where it's simply one person
just talking to a friend. It's
just heightened. There are no
pauses. It's more specific.
It's more intent. Everything
is hyped up a little. The stakes
are heightened. The thing about
commercial types (because I
do some casting too), especially
right now, the style of people
that they are bringing in are
nowhere near what they used
to be. They're edgier. They're
less model looking. But don't
get me wrong, there are the
pretty commercials and the old
fashioned styles. Everybody
at some point, unless you are
a hunchback with moles all over
your face, is right for some
kind of commercial. The people
who work the most are the more
WASPy commercial people; they
tend to be more generic.
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Keith: |
What does in mean to punch
the product? |
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Carolyne: |
Punching a product means to
underline, to bracket, to make
it stand out, But there are
other ways of doing it that
make it feel like you are not
hitting somebody over the head
with it. Maybe that you are
sharing a secret, that you just
discovered something and that
you are excited about. So again,
the thing I tell people in my
class is that when someone gives
you a direction like "warm
it up," or "have more
fun with it," or "punch
the product" you quickly
interpret that motivationally
as to why you would want to
do that. And I say quickly because
you don't have a lot of time.
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Keith: |
If you get copy before the
audition, should it be memorized?
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Carolyne: |
If you had an audition for
a movie, would you memorize
it first? Usually not. You would
work on it. You would do your
prelife, objective, motivations,
your who, what, where, and why
and all that stuff. And as you
are working on it, you start
to memorize it. But if you start
memorizing it right off, you
go into your head at the reading.
You get all tangled up thinking
about the words and get out
of the moment. As an actor you
know the best work you do is
when you are out of your head
and in the moment. I tell people
to memorize the first and last
lines always. Also the first
and last lines are the slowest
lines of copy.
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Keith: |
Could you give us an idea of
how actors should enter and
leave the casting office and
should they try to ask a lot
of questions to stay in the
office a little longer?
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Carolyne: |
Absolutely not. I think that
people who try to hard to endear
themselves to casting people
are shooting themselves in the
foot, because everybody is in
a hurry. Now that doesn't mean
you have to rush in and rush
out, but you should respect
the people who are running the
session. Think in terms of that
they have a problem and you
have a solution. You are the
creative solution to their problem.
Walk in with that confidence.
Know what to do and be excited
about the opportunity to do
it. Don't sit in judgement of
the material or be pissed off
because they kept you waiting.
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Keith: |
Should an actor try to develop
a certain commercial type of
character for himself? Should
he try to bring an image to
all auditions?
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Carolyne: |
I have just recently put together
a class which I am extremely
excited about called a "packaging
class". Most people don't
know who they are. They know
who they want to be, what they
dream of being. But most people
can't realistically look at
themselves and see what they
are right for. And the people
who do understand the roles
they can honestly play tend
to have better careers in commercials.
In this packaging class, the
first night I bring in two casting
directors, a commercial and
a theatrical, and we go through
all the actors. They see a video
tape scene of each one, then
their pictures. They look at
them and say, "Okay, you
are right for this part, this
part and this part, this age
range, etc." The actors
get very clear on it and it's
both from a commercial and a
theatrical point of view. Then
in the next two weeks I bring
in a wardrobe and a color person.
Then for two weeks I bring in
a hair and wig specialist and
then for two weeks I bring in
a make-up specialist. At the
end I get them to assimilate
it all - the hair, make-up,
wardrobe and colors. Then I
give them a little acting adjustment
for each of the characters.
But their characters aren't
a major stretch. They are who
they would be cast for physically,
emotionally and in terms of
personality.
I think it is very important
for actors to research their
physicality. Part of the reason
that some people work a lot
is that those people are physically
who they are, their personality
is that and their acting is
that. So they are totally in
sync. In commercials there is
no time. You have to come in
being what they see. There is
no time, as in a movie or a
play, for anything to be developed.
It has to be there instantaneously.
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Keith: |
Can you explain a little to
us about the process of training?
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Carolyne: |
It varies for different people
at different levels. For most
actors who come to this town,
the most problematic area is
that their experience and training
was in small markets or at universities.
They've done community theater
which, is presentational acting
most of the time. The stuff
that most universities teach
is theatrical acting - acting
way over the top. For those
people or people who have never
done anything, the course of
training I believe should go
like this: At least two classes
a week for at least two years,
scene study and improv. You
are like an actor going to college
to study to be an actor. The
second year, stay in a scene
study class, maybe change your
teacher. Then in the second
year of training you might want
to add a commercial class, a
cold reading class or a Shakespeare
class. Also I tell people, after
the first year, to pick up a
trade paper and go out for a
lot of auditions for roles you
don't want in student film or
theater. It'll start freeing
you up because a lot of times
people are great students, but
when it comes to auditioning,
they freeze. So make that part
of your training. Get out there
and audition for things that
are not right for you so you
have to stretch as an actor.
That's after two years. Then
after that I would say that
the actor should stay in an
acting class for at least one
class a week for the rest of
their acting career, unless
they become a star and they
are working all the time. Now
that's for the beginning actor.
For the actor who has been studying
about a year, they should be
in one acting class and then
add a commercial or improv class.
I am a major advocate of improv,
especially for commercials.
That is why I offer a whole
improv division.
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Keith: |
I want to thank you for taking
time out of your busy schedule
to share your expertise with
our readers. In closing, are
there any final thoughts that
you would like to say to actors?
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Carolyne: |
Commercial training to me is
only part of being an actor.
I prefer working with people
who want to be actors. Sometimes
people will come to me and say
they really don't want to be
an actor, they only want to
do commercials. I have to bite
my lip because I know that commercials
are much more difficult. And
what makes them difficult is
that you have less time to prepare.
In theatrical auditions you
pretty much know what to expect.
You have the material, you go
in and read it. When you show
up for a commercial audition,
you don't know if you are going
to do one line, long copy, short
copy, a scene, a group scene,
ride a bicycle - you never know
what is going to happen. That's
one reason I really believe
in improv, because I think there
is nothing like improv to really
get people to trust their instincts.
It's very frightening for people.
People who have been successful
in TV and film can have a panic
attack over commercials. Commercials
are the hardest area to maintain
your love for the business,
but that is when you have to
work on yourself and keep going
back to your acting roots and
seeing how it all relates. I
tell people who come to study
with me that even though this
is a commercial class, I teach
it from an acting point of view.
My job is to get them all to
be authentic. Because there
is only one of you and that's
who they want to see.
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